I will take you to task for your disrepectful attitude toward the guest here, as well the trashing of people who can no longer defend themselves (not to mention the contributors to this interview). Nor is this the place to discuss such matters..re: the Jesus myth, the authority of someone like Gerald Massey and others, including the author’s works. You know where to go for that. Otherwise, I objectively see you as the trashing troll that you are. Very Christian of you!

I really don’t care what your opinion is. It’s your rediculous attitude that reveals itself. I found I have wasted my time following your threads here, but I forced myself to do so. What I learned was enough to convince me that you haven’t a clue what you are talking about. I could expect no less from a believer in a ‘poof’ fairy tale. ‘Poofs’ always lack credibility when they resort to subterfuge to uphold the ‘integrity’ of their imaginary lovers.

Pretty pathetic is an apt description to apply to yourself. So, I will end on that note. You can find me in lots of places, if you want to take offense from my observation of your lack of…well anything worthwhile in this area of thought or anything else for that matter!

skullnboner

Pretty pathetic.

Look, Aziz, here is your chance to back yourself up. You stated, “Everything following that comment Ari claims she doesn’t mention *IS* mentioned in “The Christ Conspiracy.”” If that is correct, then can you please show me where Acharya deals with my objections inside the Christ Conspiracy. I raised:

1. In Chapter 1 of The Christ Conspiracyn, she seems to be unaware of the well documented Decian and Diocletian persecutions against Christians. As you stated I was incorrect, can you please point to where she mentions them.

2. In chapter three, she claims the “autographs’ of the NT documents were destroyed at Nicaea. Where is the evidence for this. On what basis does she believe these autographs would have survived until then? She goes on to say that the NT documents were edited in the 6th century by Emperor Anastasius. Where does she deal with the fact that we have (1) independent pre-6th century text types and (2) numerous complete copies of the various NT books before and after the 6th century which prove this to be false. A page number or quote from the Christ Conspiracy would be fine.

3. You claimed that I was wrong in pointing out that she is unaware that form criticism precludes her claims about Marcion’s edition of Luke’s gospel being the source of the gospels. Could you please quote where she talks about works such as those by Casey or Goodacre on the synoptic problem.

4. You stated I was wrong, so could you please quote where in ‘The Christ Conspiracy’ she mentions that her claims about the gospels being composed in the late second century are rejected by contemporary scholarship. Similarly, that we have (1) quotations and (2) physical manuscripts from before this period which renders this claim fanciful.

So yeah, just point out where Acharya S makes note of this evidence in ‘The Christ Conspiracy’. You don’t want everyone to realise (if they haven’t already) that you were just lying in order to slander me, do you?

Truly pathetic. Just because I disagree with your personal claims, doesn’t mean you need to lie about me calling for me to be “bitch slapped”, etc.

[I don't really expect an answer from you now, but maybe you'll step up.]

You’ve been caught red-handed at Wiki trashing Acharya’s wiki page, Ari and now you’re here trolling. It’s quite clear that you’re OBSESSED with Acharya S

Already address Ari – of course, you don’t know it because you have obviously not actually read the book.

Your 1. “Diocletian” issue is discussed in 4 of her 5 books to date. You need to read the damn books you pretend to be an expert on, Ari. I would give you all the citations but I have a policy against SPOON-FEEDING TROLLS who going around the net trashing, smearing & libeling an authors works they’ve never read. It’s pure intellectual dishonesty and that is all you have to offer here. You’re just another biased Christian extremist out to shore up your faith all costs – even if it means smearing and libeling the works of living breathing human beings. You’re a disgrace, Ari.

Your 2. etc, If you read the book rather than snippet views at Google books you’d quickly learn how you’ve MUCKED it all up. Demonstrating once again that you have not read the book, rather, you are reading snippets from Google books. The same goes for the rest of your rhetoric/propaganda BS.”

And for the 4th time, why didn’t you answer my question Ari?:

“Where is Ari’s inerrant scholarly masterpiece book and by what scholarly publisher? What has Ari published at the SBL or AAR etc?”

If you’re a member of the SBL then prove it – they have a public membership list. Show us your name on the list.

You are a pathetic liar and a troll with OCD, Ari. Get some help.

Look, Aziz, here is your chance to back yourself up. You stated, “Everything following that comment Ari claims she doesn’t mention *IS* mentioned in “The Christ Conspiracy.”” If that is correct, then can you please show me where Acharya deals with my objections inside the Christ Conspiracy. I raised:

1. In Chapter 1 of The Christ Conspiracyn, she seems to be unaware of the well documented Decian and Diocletian persecutions against Christians. As you stated I was incorrect, can you please point to where she mentions them.

2. In chapter three, she claims the “autographs’ of the NT documents were destroyed at Nicaea. Where is the evidence for this. On what basis does she believe these autographs would have survived until then? She goes on to say that the NT documents were edited in the 6th century by Emperor Anastasius. Where does she deal with the fact that we have (1) independent pre-6th century text types and (2) numerous complete copies of the various NT books before and after the 6th century which prove this to be false. A page number or quote from the Christ Conspiracy would be fine.

3. You claimed that I was wrong in pointing out that she is unaware that form criticism precludes her claims about Marcion’s edition of Luke’s gospel being the source of the gospels. Could you please quote where she talks about works such as those by Casey or Goodacre on the synoptic problem.

4. You stated I was wrong, so could you please quote where in ‘The Christ Conspiracy’ she mentions that her claims about the gospels being composed in the late second century are rejected by contemporary scholarship. Similarly, that we have (1) quotations and (2) physical manuscripts from before this period which renders this claim fanciful.

So yeah, just point out where Acharya S makes note of this evidence in ‘The Christ Conspiracy’. You don’t want everyone to realise (if they haven’t already) that you were just lying in order to slander me, do you?

Truly pathetic. Just because I disagree with your personal claims, doesn’t mean you need to lie about me calling for me to be “bitch slapped”, etc.

Pretty pathetic.

Still calling the kettle black – got nothing else to offer, obviously, do you Ari?

You’ve been caught red-handed at Wiki trashing Acharya’s wiki page, Ari and now you’re here trolling. It’s quite clear that you’re OBSESSED with Acharya S – I wonder if you OCD.

The fact remains that you have been basing your 1 & 2 of snippet views from Google because you have *NOT* read the book. If you read the book you’d see how silly your arguments are. And you’d see how you’re embarrassing yourself here. Those who actually have her books can see how you’re just a troll smearing & libeling an author who’s works you’ve never read.

And for the 3rd time, why didn’t you answer my question Ari?:

“Where is Ari’s inerrant scholarly masterpiece book and by what scholarly publisher? What has Ari published at the SBL or AAR etc?”

If you’re a member of the SBL then prove it – they have a public membership list. Show us your name on the list.

I have to say, will you get over the childish abuse and name calling. First I was some Kenneth guy, now I am Wikipedia. You know what, I’m also Barrack Obama. And the Pope. And together we form the Masons.

Anything but honesty with you. Also, try not to be so angry!

Ari “Sorry, Aziz, but you can continue to claim what you want – but you still haven’t interacted with my post. I cited specific examples, you ignored them and continue with your empty rhetoric. Your repeated ad hominem and various childish attacks have achieved nothing for you.’

LMAO! That’s a knee-slapper since it is you, Ari, who is calling the kettle black. Further evidence that you are a TROLL can be demonstrated by your trashing of Acharya’s Wikipedia page – “Ari89″ – even as I write:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Writings_of_D.M._Murdock&action=history

As I was looking at her wiki page All of your trash was removed Ari. And then, as I clicked on the discussion and went back you were already there again spreading your TROLL TRASH. You keep trying to post quotes from people who’ve never read Acharya’s works. You are completely OBSESSED with trashing, smearing and libeling her however you can – wherever you can get away with it.

The trash you keep trying to put into Acharya’s wiki page comes from the Christian extremist apologist JP Holding http://www.tektonics.org and other apologist websites who often get their info from JP Holding who, in fact has absolutely no relevant qualifications, credentials or degrees. He cannot read, write or speak any other biblical languages and this is your HERO!!?? Yep, you are a TROLL.

Acharya has dealt with Licona and Holding and no further response to them is needed.

http://www.truthbeknown.com/licona.htm

http://www.truthbeknown.com/holding.htm

Ari “If that is correct, then can you please show me…”

I knew you’d say that –

Your 1. “Diocletian” is mentioned and discussed in 4 of her 5 books to date. You need to read the damn books you pretend to be an expert on Ari. I would give you all the citations but I have a policy against SPOON-FEEDING TROLLS who going around the net trashing an authors works they’ve never read.

Your 2. etc, If you read the book rather than snippet views at Google books you’d quickly learn how you’ve MUCKED it all up. Demonstrating once again that you have not read the book, rather, you are reading snippets from Google books. The same goes for the rest of your rhetoric/propaganda BS.

You really are a pathetic liar Ari. Lying through your tooth.

And why didn’t you answer my question Ari?:

“Where is Ari’s inerrant scholarly masterpiece book and by what scholarly publisher? What has Ari published at the SBL or AAR etc?”